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Rescue.mom
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

snowyangel wrote:
Yaa today I went to a pet store and saw the cutest Min Pin and felt so sorry for it b/c it's ears were cropped and the tail docked. No need to cutt off a pup ears or tail for fashions sake! Mad


I'm the owner of a cropped/docked breed, although I don't support c/d. But I have to say it is even more cruel to declaw a cat, a dog doesn't use it's ears or tail to walk on, run on, jump from, dig, scratch, stretch, defend itself in an emergency, etc...

What aggrevates me the most is that for the vast majority, vets DO NOT present the alternatives. Nor do they actually explain what the surgery is. I run a cat rescue through my own home, and I WILL NOT adopt a cat to a home that declaws. These dear ones depend on me to determine their future and what is best for them. And it is not to get their toes hacked off. I'm sorry, I'm ranting here Smile My point I was going to get at is, I'm shocked how many of my potential adoptors out there do not actually realize "what" a declaw is and entails. They think that the nail is just removed. More often than not, they are horrified to hear what the surgery actually is. Many vets offer it as a routine surgery along with s/n, but it is hardly a simple routine surgery, a cat is getting 10 toes cut off, so the way I see it, it is TEN painful surgeries.

Often times a declaw surgery will affect a cat for the rest of it's life. As is the case with my Bandit. She is and has been in constant discomfort for 8 years now since I had her declawed, she will sit and stand with her right front foot up nearly all the time, if you touch it, she pulls it away from you. It has been since her declaw she has shown this effect.

Even cats that don't show discomfort or pain, don't automatically assume they have no side effects from it. Cats are very tolerant to pain, and it is their nature to hide pain and injury. Many have litterbox issues also to show for it.

I'm so glad to hear so many members seeing declawing for what it actually is. It steams me to hear people use the line "Well at least my cat has a home, better then being homeless or dead then just declawed". Or something to that effect. That is a shameful defensive response to unnessecary cruelty. I've heard it described as "taking an emotional hostage" and I agree that it is. Regardless of how people disregard the cruelty of the act, it is cruel and unnessecary.



Decawing is illegal in these countries....
England
Scotland
Wales
Italy
France
Germany
Austria
Switzerland
Norway
Sweden
Netherlands
Northern Ireland
Ireland
Denmark
Finland
Slovenia
Portugal
Belgium
Brazil
Australia
New Zealand
Yugoslavia

Thankfully although slowly, US cities are getting with it also, West Holleywood (lol I disagree with nearly everything else they do, but am happy about this Smile) has enacted a ban on declawing as has Norfolk VA, just earlier this year. The ban in CA was put into effect, then withdrawn, then reinstated again.

It is also illegal as of 2006, to declaw any exotic species.
http://www.declawing.com/htmls/declawing.htm

LOL, okay off my very long soapbox....
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Sowilu
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at the picture Rescue.mom provided with the claws off doesn't it look like a human hand?! Shocked

Just imagine your hand like that! I bet you won't be happy!!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't realize it was illegal in so many places...but then, so is the death penalty. I think it is easy to say we (in the US) aren't exactly the most humane society!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have my cats declawed, the older one minuit, because she is sometimes rough with people and doesnt like strangers and hated getting her nails clipped by me. And then the seccond cat enzo because the first cat had been declawed and i didnt think it was fair for one to have claws andnot the other. And also since i am currently renting places, i didnt want to have to pay for the damages.
I love them so much, and i didnt want to hurt them, but sometimes it is inportant especially with the first cat (minuit)! I would reccomend going to a place that is more expensive, with my first cat i found the cheapest vet who would do it for 360$ but it wasnt worth it because i think she has some problems with her new hands, and the stitches on her abdomen after getting spayed were strange, im not sure if all cats have their stitches so tight that it makes the fat bulge around it??? BUt enzo was fine with his, and he plays like crazy, i mean declawing sucked for minuit cause she stopped being so active with toys, but she loves those thick hair elastics! and Enzo will still play just as much as before! Smile Exclamation
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All of my cats are declawed but one.We just haven't got around to it.Declawing is very helpful.My cat (the one that is not declawed) will often bite me for no reason.And it HURTS!!!!!!!!!!!!The others are so calm and peacfull.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

prettehaley wrote:
All of my cats are declawed but one.We just haven't got around to it.Declawing is very helpful.My cat (the one that is not declawed) will often bite me for no reason.And it HURTS!!!!!!!!!!!!The others are so calm and peacfull.


How do your cats play with toys?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They just paw it around and bite their toys.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to agree. I didn't declaw mine because I consider it cruel, but if the only option was to have them declawed or have to give them up, they'd be declawed. They have several cat trees and never hurt the furniture. Ok, the water bed is an exception, but that's only cuz they'd "lose" a toy down the side and nailed the bed retrieving it. I had a friend sew me a very heavy matress pad and it's been ages since there's been a problem. Even when I was patching the bed (and patching the bed.....) declawing never seemed a solution.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaden wrote:
i have my cats declawed,... And the second cat enzo because the first cat had been declawed and i didnt think it was fair for one to have claws andnot the other.


I have 4 cats, 3 males with claws and one female Holly who is front declawed(she was previously declawed when i adopted her) but I would prefer her with claws as sometimes its hard for her to get up on furniture. Believe it or not, Holly always dominates the cats with claws and plays just fine with them without getting hurt. It's doesn't make her any less equal to them unless you let your declawed cats outdoors, then they have no protection. All mine are indoor cats.
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